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293 Il nome della rosa The Name of the Rose, Umberto EcoThe Name of the Rose Italian Il nome della rosa is the 1980 debut novel by Italian author Umberto Eco It is a historical murder mystery set in an Italian monastery, in the year 1327, an intellectual mystery combining semiotics in fiction, biblical analysis, medieval studies and literary theory It was translated into English by William Weaver in 1983 2009 1391 880 9789643344344 1394 864 9786005452761 1365 1368 9645511275 1386 160 9789648897197 198013271986 , , 1980 VS 2008 Hypatia 1853 1853 , 2008 , , , , , , Song of the Songs, , , , , 1980 VS The Da Vici Code 2003 2003 , , , , , , 1980 VS Angels and Demons 2000 , , , , , 20 , 2 , , , , 11 2014 10 2014 18 2014 A 84% Very Good NotesA medieval Sherlock Holmes manages sectarian politics and investigates serial murders in a dense but effective read. Jorge of Burgos 1 2 This is one of those rare near perfect books that crosses through many genres and could be universally acclaimed There are dozens of great reviews on here already, but this book struck me as so profound that I felt I needed to briefly put down my own thoughts I could not bring myself to put this down and it was always a battle to not skip work and continue reading in the parking lot after lunch break Eco crafts a novel that could be labeled as historical fiction, mystery, theology and philosophy, metafiction, a plot boiler, literature, and many others hell, there s even a bit of love and sex thrown in and of multiple sexual orientations He essentially takes Sherlock Holmes and Watson and recasts them as monks in a 1300 s Abbey where murder and theological debates appear around every corner The two main plots, the murder mystery and the religious debates, weave together effortlessly, each feeding off each other as the tensions rise and the plot thickens.This is no simple plot driven thriller however Eco brings a tome of medieval and christian history to the table, working it as a period piece and educates the reader as well as entertains This has drawn a lot of comparisons to works such as Dan Brown s Da Vince Code, yet Eco surpasses Brown in almost every category This book truly deserve to be considered literature , as there is muchto it than a history and research tossed into a plot Eco can spit prose with the best of them and he will keep your dictionary close at hand His character s speech is all believable and what fascinated me the most was how expertly he wrote the theological arguments between the Abbey occupants Through these characters, many which were real people, he presents believable, and often fiery, multifaceted discussions on a range of topics such as heretics, vows of poverty, and gospel interpretations Eco has a vast knowledge of medieval studies and it shows He is also a professor of semiotics, which play a critical role in this novel William s method of deduction hinges on his ability to read the signs in the world around him He carefully crafts syllogisms, which brought me back to my logic and reasoning courses at MSU, to produce his theories Eco puts his best foot forward and gives the reader a good introduction to his own fields of study with Rose However, he also throws in the loophole that the world may not be comprised of any inherent meaning and that it is senseless to try to apply meaning to randomness This could present quiet a dilemma for a monk who s life draws meaning from the gospels.Perhaps the most exciting aspect of this novel was that it was a book about books The whole novel spins around several texts, such as Aristotle and Revelations, but is made up of other books He even draws the readers attention to this as William explains to Adso how the contents of one book can be discerned by reading other books He strings together hefty allusions to other medieval texts and also to one of Eco s, and one of my own, personal favorite authors Jorge Luis Borges This novel is saturated with allusions to Borges works, there is even a blind librarian much like the real Borges named Jorge of Burgos I would highly recommend picking up a copy of his collected fictions, simply because it is a phenomenal read, and to read selected stories such as The Library of Babel simultaneously with The Name of the Rose as Eco drew much of his inspiration for this book from Borges story The scenes in the labyrinthine library of the abbey are gold, I wanted to get lost with William and Adso as they flipped through great works together while trying to make sense of their obfuscating surroundings Eco s use of metafiction greatly adds to this novel, as an acute reading will show Eco is often talkingabout the book itself than the actual plot with his two leads He also leaves in plenty of untranslated Latin while having William conclude that true scholars must first master languages, and to key in on the idea that this book was a text found and translated by the character of Eco He leaves some detective work for the reader, and I thank him for that.You really need to read this book There are scant few people who would not find something of interest within it s pages It is a deep, dense ocean of a novel and not a little plot driven pool to be waded through just for enjoyment, but with just a little effort it will provide a fountain of enjoyment That was a weird, out of place and senseless string of water metaphors, but you get the idea Easily a 5 5 1300 Reprinted from the Chicago Center for Literature and Photography cclapcenter.com I am the original author of this essay, as well as the owner of CCLaP it is not being reprinted here illegally The CCLaP 100 In which I read a hundred so called classics and then write reports on whether or not I think they deserve the labelBook 7 The Name of the Rose, by Umberto Eco The story in a nutshell In one of thefascinating stories of how a novelist was first drawn to his profession, scholar Umberto Eco was actually an Italian history professor and Medieval expert for years before ever turning to creative writing according to legend, it was his thrilling and exacting retelling of actual Dark Age stories that inspired his friends to keep urging him to write a novel based in those times, which he finally did in the late 1970s As such, then, The Name of the Rose is a bizarre amalgam that you scarcely ever find in contemporary literature a genre actioner murder mystery with a lot of melodramatic elements at its core, but at the same time a detailed historical look at actual 1300s Europe, with a big part of the reason to read this book being so that one can be exposed to the meticulous detail of Eco s prose on the subject, from the period s clothing and architecture to its religious structures and philosophies But on top of this, turns out that Eco is a postmodernist and accomplished semiotics expert as well, turning the book not just into a potboiler mystery and historical novel but indeed an entire thesis on the nature of language itself, on the meaning behind symbols, and on why human behavior repeats itself so often no matter which age you study, and no matter what the rationale behind such behavior during any given age.Plotwise it s the story of a Franciscan monk named William of Baskerville, which is just the start of the sly references to Sherlock Holmes Eco deliberately inserts turns out that William is also British, a champion of logic and deductive reasoning, and even has a clueless teenage assistant named Adso who stands in symbolically for the equally clueless audience William is in Italy, helping a fellow monk investigate a mysterious death in the fortified abbey where the man leads turns out, in fact, that this is one of the largest and most renowned of all the Christian Dark Age monastery libraries, attracting an international team of egghead monks and a scholarly atmosphereakin to modern universities Both the novel and the investigation take place over seven days at this fortress abbey, where William and Adso spend their time gathering clues, pontificating on all kinds of subjects that intellectuals in the 1300s pontificated on, and examining in detail such historical details as the church s then ongoing debate over whether it s better to be rich or poor, as well as why the Benedictine monks and the Franciscan ones hated each other so intensely back then in the first place This being a murder mystery, of course, the actual plot is something best left for the reader to discover on their own, although I ll warn you that the actual whodunit part isn t very suspenseful as mentioned above, the real point of this being a murder mystery is for Eco to show just how similarly humans behaved back then as we do now, even as the times themselves inspire completely different motivations and excuses So in other words, a lot less I love my baby s mamma in the 1300s, a lotThe devil made me do it The argument for it being a classic Fans of this novel and there are a whole lot of them it s hard to dislike this book, frankly argue that this book deserves the classic labelquickly than a lot of other contemporary novels do after all, the book s only 27 years old at this point , precisely because it deals with issues from an age of classics so in other words, because it s set in Medieval times, is written in Dark Age vernacular and includes historical details worthily accurate of the respected academe Eco is, fans claim that of course The Name of the Rose will eventually be a classic, such a foregone conclusion that we might as well declare it one now Ah, but there s also a much stronger argument for this being considered a classic right now as mentioned, many of those who study the esoteric academic field of semiotics claim that the novel is a perfect example of what they do, explained in layman s terms so that non academes can finally get it As such, then, these people claim that The Name of the Rose is not just an exciting DaVinci Code style historical thriller, but also a densely layered examination of stories about stories about stories, of symbols about symbols about symbols, of the meaning behind meaning behind meaning Yeah, see what they mean when they say that semiotics is a hard thing to explain to the general public The argument against The main argument against this being a classic seems to be one brought up a lot with well written yet contemporary books contemporary in this case being any less than half a century old that the book is simply too new to be able to reasonably judge whether it should rightly be called a timeless classic, one of those fabled books you should read before you die For just one example, when The Name of the Rose first came out in 1980, it was the first time anyone had ever tried setting a rational Holmesian style mystery story within a Medieval monastery in the years since, we ve had all kinds of projects on the subject, including a popular weekly BBC Masterpiece series It s a great book, even its critics are quick to point out, even if somewhat on the dry side at points ugh, all those debates about papal decrees but who s to say if anyone s going to even remember this novel a hundred years from now, or the notoriously spotty career Eco has since had as a novelist Don t forget, Eco is mostly a scholar and historian although considered a rockstar in the academic world, his reputation as a writer of fiction is muchcontentious My verdict So let s make it clear right off the bat that from a pure entertainment standpoint, The Name of the Rose is one of the most delightful novels I ve read in years, years It s funny, it s smart, it s insightful, it s thrilling, it s nerdy Cheese And Rice, it s everything a lover of books could possibly ever want from a well done one But is it a classic Well, unfortunately, I think I m going to have to agree with the critics on this one that although it could very well become a classic one day, one of those Catcher in the Rye style one hit wonders that populate so many lists, I think it s simply too early to make such a call either in a positive or negative way, especially considering Eco s otherwise spotty career as a novelist That s part of the point of classics lists existing, after all, and why those who care about such lists take them so seriously because ultimately such a designation should reflect not only how good a book itself is, but how well it s stood the test of time, of how relevant it s continued to be to generation after generation, of how timeless the author s style and word choice One always has to be careful when adding newish books to such lists, especially novels less than 30 years old, because we have no idea at this point how such books are going to stand the test of time load up your classics list with such titles, and your list suddenly becomes worthless fluff, as relevant and important as a whole evening of handing out freakin Quill Awards It s for this reason that I m excluding The Name of the Rose from my own personal Canon, although still highly encourage all of you to actually read it, just from the standpoint of pure enjoyment.Is it a classic Not yet The Name of the Rose is not a book to be picked up lightly with the expectation that you, the reader, are about to embark on a traditional work of historical fiction Umberto Eco expects much from the reader of this book Almost immediately the unsuspecting reader will find himself dropped into the midst of the High Middle Ages, a society completely foreign for the majority of modern readers.In historical context, the story occurs during the time the Papacy had moved from its traditional location in Italy to Avignon John XXII is a Pope brought to the head of the Holy Roman Church by the King of France John is not the first Pope to leave the Church s Italian home.However, it is 1327, and great dissatisfaction pervades Europe that a French King should have political influence over the Church Traditionally, following the division of the Roman Empire between West and East, the secular protection of the Church had fallen to the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, a title held by members of the royal families of Germany In that year, Louis IV would declare himself the King of Italy and in 1328 he would crown himself the next Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire.Louis entrance into Italy was inevitable, as King Phillip of France had encouraged an alliance with the French Pope through his connection with the King of Naples Louis sympathies, or perhaps his political acumen, led him to support the Franciscan Order, committed to the life of poverty This was in direct contradiction to the Papal Bulls issued by John XXII, who saw the Franciscan Orders as a disruptive force among the common people Off shoots of the Fransiscan s, particularly the Psuedo Apostles, led by Fra Dolcino, had led to absolute chaos in Italy Dolcino s common followers attacked the wealthy to bring about a universal state of poverty There should be no rich There should be no poor The ultimate goal of Dolcino was to abolish the need of the Church and place it under the authority of the people Under this theory, there was no need for Popes, Cardinals, Bishops, or ecclesiastical offices of any type.William of Baskerville s purpose in going to the Abbey of Melko is as an emissary of the Imperial Theologians to negotiate a meeting between legations appointed by the Pope and Louis to resolve the conflict between the Papacy, the Minorite or Franciscan orders, and Louis What is at stake is a reinterpretation between Church and State That the underlying issue concerns who will wield true power in Europe is obvious.However, William s true mission is delayed For, upon his arrival, he discovers that a young Illuminator in the Abbey s Scriptorium has met an untimely death Was it murder or suicide The death of a second monk, clearly indicates that someone in the closed society of the Abbey of Melk is a murderer.Accompanied by his scribe, Adso, William sets out to investigate the deaths of the two monks The mystery only deepens asdeaths occur The circumstances seem to follow the sounding of the trumpets as revealed in the Revelation of John.Eco continues to complicate the facts of William s case by revealing that the Abbey contains one of the finest libraries known in the contemporary world Interestingly, no one but the Librarian, his assistant, or someone with the permission of the Abbot himself can gain entry to the library, which is protected by a labyrinth seemingly incapable of being navigated.William of Baskerville is the equivalent of a Medieval Sherlock Holmes Adso, whose French name happens to be Adson, conveniently rhyming with Watson William is a man committed to logic He is a student of Roger Bacon He is a contemporary of William of Occam It should come as no surprise that he is capable of the art of deduction through that logic, nor that he should be in possession of a pair of optical lenses, serving him as eyeglasses enabling him to read the tiny writing of a murdered monk, barely perceptible to the naked eye The monk s almost invisible writing lead William and Adso to discover the secrets of the labyrinth and to search for a book that seems to hold the motive for the accumulating bodies, day by day.The Abbot pointedly tells William that the matter of these deaths must be resolved prior to the arrival of the two legations The Papal legation is headed by Bernard of Gui, an infamous inquisitor who has burned many a heretic in his long history as a defender of the faith Surely Bernard will take over the question of the deaths at the Abbey and use them to strengthen the Pope s position that the Franciscan s philosophy of the poverty of Christ be eliminated by the Pope.William and Adso s exploration of the labyrinth to discover a missing book, the seeming motive for the murders, intensify And they succeed in discovering their way through the labyrinth However, they are unsuccessful in unraveling an endless thread of textual clues leading from one manuscript to the next prior to the arrival of the two opposed legations.As feared, the discovery of yet another body, the herbalist Severinus, leads Bernard Gui to take over the inquisition to root out the evil present in the abbey Bernard is ruthless Torture is an accepted practice to disclose the works of the devil As expected, Bernard announces he intends to inform the Pope that the Franciscan orders of Poverty should be prohibited.Nevertheless, William and Adso will solve the mystery of the labyrinth, the secret manuscript it contains, and the identity of the murderer In keeping with my practice not to reveal any spoilers of plot, I will not address the identity of the murderer, nor the motive for the crimes.But, I will say this The Name of the Rose is a labyrinth complete within itself While a labyrinth may contain a solution, and one may escape its twists and turns, it is not always possible to end up with an answer that leaves no ambiguity There isthan one labyrinth present in Eco s wonderful work One question relates to the interpretation of knowledge itself Is knowledge finite Are there universal truths Or is it a matter of what appears to be the truth only subject to interpretation by individuals To the librarians of the Abbey Melko, knowledge was something to be protected from disclosure As I mentioned to one friend, the library took on the connotation of Eden s Tree of Life, from which man and woman were forbidden to eat It was knowledge gained from eating the forbidden fruit that led to the loss of innocence Considering that the library contained many works considered by the librarians to be the work of infidels, it would be their purpose to hide those works from the innocent Yet, the mere possession of that knowledge also led to its misinterpretation and the accusation of heresy.Clearly, during the heated debate between the Papal and Imperial Legations, knowledge did not exist independent of the thinker s perception One postulation of a particular theological theorem was subject to debate on the most minute detail out of political motivation.But, Adso may well have had the most significant statement to make regarding books and their contents It will be one of my favorite passagesUntil then I had thought each book spoke of the things, human or divine, that lie outside books Now I realized that not infrequently books speak of books it is as if they spoke among themselves In the light of this reflection, the library seemed all thedisturbing to me It was then the place of long, centuries old murmuring, an imperceptible dialogue between one parchment and another, a living thing, a receptacle of powers not to ruled by a human mind, a treasure of secrets emanated by many minds, surviving the death of those who had produced them or had been their conveyorsEven William was subject to hearing words so familiar, he knew he had read them before, but could not remember the name of the bookIt seemed to me, as I read this page, that I had read some of these words before, and some phrases that are almost the same, which I have seen elsewhere, return to my mindBooks find themselves the creator of other books,when they become so deeply planted in our subconscious A famous contemporary example is found in Nabokov s Lolita Nabokov s character first appeared in a short story Lolita, written in 1916 by Heinz von Eschwege The story lines are quite similar Nabokov has been said to have created artistic improprieties, or been subject to a phenomenon known as cryptomnesia, a hidden memory of a story he had once read Michael Marr, author of The Two Lolitas, wrote, Literature has always been a huge crucible in which familiar themes are continually recast Perhaps James Baldwin said it bestIt was books that taught me that the things that tormented me most were the very things that connected me with all the people who were alive, or who had ever been alive As The Name of the Rose contains a multitude of Latin phrases, I think it fitting to add one , not included in the book itself That is sub rosa The concept first appears in Egyptian culture The rose was the symbol of the Egyptian God Horus, most often represented by a child holding his finger to his mouth as if he were saying, Shhhh It became symbolic of silence It reappears in Greek and Roman mythology Venus Aphrodite gave a rose to Cupid which served as a symbol of silence regarding her many indiscretions in love By the Middle Ages, the rose had a definite meaning In those times, when a party of individuals met in a council hall, a rose was hung over the table Whatever was discussed under the rose was secret and all parties meeting under the rose agreed that the subject of their discussions was confidential Much lies under the surface of this novel It was deemed by the characters to be secret And so, I believe Eco would have us treat this novel in modo sub rosa, leaving each reader to discover its secrets in their own manner The further one delves, thesecrets remain to be discovered. Go ahead, throw your tomatoes at me I know that in general this book is loved Many count it amongst their favorites I found it very dull and very boring I had an extremely hard time staying interested in the story, which is weird for me and mystery suspense stories Never have I fought so hard to finish a book in general, I do not DNF.So, if you couldn t stand it either, let me know that I am not alone.For those that loved it and are ready to launch rotten produce at me `Download Book ⇨ Il nome della rosa ⇺ The Year IsBenedictines In A Wealthy Italian Abbey Are Suspected Of Heresy, And Brother William Of Baskerville Arrives To Investigate When His Delicate Mission Is Suddenly Overshadowed By Seven Bizarre Deaths, Brother William Turns Detective His Tools Are The Logic Of Aristotle, The Theology Of Aquinas, The Empirical Insights Of Roger Bacon All Sharpened To A Glistening Edge By Wry Humor And A Ferocious Curiosity He Collects Evidence, Deciphers Secret Symbols And Coded Manuscripts, And Digs Into The Eerie Labyrinth Of The Abbey, Where The Most Interesting Things Happen At Night